"At times I was unsure if we were talking about the right thing. Then I would see the impact in between conversations. Or I would realise that it's just that I’ve been finding something uncomfortable, and that you're helping us to be more authentic.
You've been a magician at times, seriously. There's a real art to helping create that safe space. And the result is we're more reflective of Aotearoa New Zealand."
Sarah Manley
Deputy Chief Executive, Hato Hone St John